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Probably not getting enough grab. Remove most of the adjustment at the lever (screw in) & adjust the slack out at the motor and try again.

Did you put a pressure plate or lifter plate on it? Lifter plate is the one that holds the springs to the clutch basket..... If it's a Koso, there were some that bottomed out in the basket, had one on my girls bike & her clutch was crap even with new plates & 60% springs..... Took it off after about 1000 miles & you could see where it was bottoming. Got one off a guy in CA that makes & sells them on ebay pretty cheap, worked perfectly afterwards. Honda Grom & Monkey Billet Clutch Plate For Big Bore 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 | eBay

 

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i adjusted the slack out of the clutch from the perch, the lever, and the motor-end. All had the same stall out type results.

Here are the parts I attempted to install:
Chimera Clutch Lifter Plate (Chimera V2 CNC Clutch Lifter Plate - Honda Grom 125, Monkey 125 (2014-2020))
Modified 6-Bolt/Spring Lifter Plate (MODIFIED (6 BOLT) GENUINE HONDA OEM CLUTCH PRESSURE PLATE - HONDA GROM 125 (2014-2020))
Barnett Kevlar Clutch Kit (Barnett Performance Products Honda Grom 125 Complete Kevlar Clutch Kit (2014-2020))

...I also upgraded the oil pump, which seems to function properly on its own.

I have watched all the install videos I can find as well as followed the clutch diagram meticulously. The clutch and clutch cable feel good, and are able to have tension as well as slack to adjust. Shifting through gears with the bike turned off feels great, and seems to be in correct order. However, once started in neutral, bike stalls out and dies when shifting into gear.

Put the stock lifter plate back in & see if the problem still exists.

 

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@PitBike Ok that sounds like a solid test if I move forward with installing all the new parts again. Right now has the og lifter and pressure plates and not catching any gears..

The most recent test I had done installed the og lifter plate and pressure plate, using the upgraded clutch and clutch springs. I measured the entire clutch stack new vs old, and both came out to 19.3mm. So I assume either clutch is should work. Most recent install resulted in the bike being stuck in neutral and not able to shift into any gears. I went ahead and drained the bike again already because I was a little suspicious with the install. the suspicion was when torqueing the clutch locknut down to 47ft. lbs, the clutch was still wanting to spin (NOT THE CLUTCH BASKET with the gears being held in place, that part was not spinning). I torqued it down but didn't like how it seemed to be slipping. I made sure to inspect all washer placement thoroughly afterwards thinking that was likely the issue, but they all seem very much in their spot. After draining, I also didn't like how easily the bearing fell out, but if I remember right, it pretty much fell out of og pressure plate upon original removal also.

It's been cold and defeating out here, so I've been only attempting an install attempt per week for my sanity. Going to move forward with step by step install again this week with a friend. fingers crossed

When I have to take the covers off the motor(one side or the other) & there is fresh oil in there, I will lay the bike over on its side & rest the handle bar on a stool, that way the oil goes to the other side of the motor & I don't have to drain the oil every time ;-)....

With the clutch completely assembled & bolted together, can you feel any play on the clutch plates in the basket? If you feel play between the plates, you need to rotate #8 in this pic 1 hole at a time until it all sandwiches together with no play. The cogs on #8 have to slot into the grooves on #12 properly or you'll won't have any clutch at all.

Another silly ??, is #15 in the hole it goes into in the cover?

 

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Just had the clutch cover off mine last night to change the Chimera lifter plate out & add 60% springs, from the ebay seller I linked before. Holy crap this clutch grabs now, absolutely zero slip launching HARD! Oil only has maybe 400-500 miles on it, so I leaned the bike over on a stool like mentioned before & lost only drops of oil from inside the cover . Had to readjust the clutch cable afterwards on the motor side.

Took the time to clean the screen & Takegawa light weight spinner too since it was apart, still collecting debris from the stock tensioner wheel disintegrating, but much less of it this time around.