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First of all english is not my native language.
My bike is a 2013 Grom and since the beginning i'm running an Over thailand full system. Now after a year i'm still happy with it, no issues.
The exhaust is basically the same as the Yoshi, which i'm selling.
Alot of Thai people are running low mount Yoshi's on their bike... And they are happy...
What i'm trying to say is that it's good quality and you get from me a 1 year warranty.
For example: if there's a crack in the header by product failure.
No overseas seller will promise you that but i'm an honest seller.
@Longballer: There's no need to show your teeth and to insult an entire country. Thailand has many good things to offer.
I'm thinking some of u guys are affiliated with some shops in the US.

My mission as a seller is to give customers a big smile on their face, good quality products.
Don't judge any product if you have never tried it.
Many people don't have BIG money to spend on their Grom. But also those people want to enjoy their ride.
Don't take freedom of choice away...
 

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I think the guys are trying to say you are selling knockoff or copy parts as the real thing.

IE: your advertised "Yoshi" systems are Not Yoshimura, just a badged copy, which you have confirmed yourself in your thread. But you still list and sell them as a Yoshimura product.

Most guys can figure it is not the real deal, especially when about 50% off what a real Yosh item is. But there are some guys that may think they are getting a genuine Yoshimura exhaust or slipon.

If you listed those as "Yosh Copies" or something like that, other that trying to say it is a Yoshimura product, maybe you wouldn't be getting so much flack about it.
 

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@MegaGrom: I understand your point.
But i mentioned they are Yoshi Thailand. (GP-force or Lowrider)
Those models don't exist outside Thailand.
 

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So they are made by yoshimura?
 

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He's been very open about the whole thing so I don't see the issue. Motobot is offering a wide range of parts for our bikes at cheap prices. Some people want to change things up on their bikes and don't have tons of money to spend on them, so there is a market there for this type of stuff. If you aren't interested, don't buy them, don't bother even looking at the threads. A bunch of US vendors buy all their stuff cheap as hell from overseas and brand it as some latest and greatest product. Example: "NEW LOW DOWN GROM SHOCK - $150" when it's actually a $50 pitbike shock that's been around forever, how is that okay and this is not? Just my two cents..
 

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Everything in my webshop is genuine product except for the yoshi's full system.
Thanks to Racer X and other peeps trying to destroy my bussiness.
What is wrong with offering genuine products to the North-American market for 1/3 of the price?
If we have to believe Racer X, than this is a perfect world where everybody has enough cash to mod their grom to the limit.
I have allready said that the Yoshi's are copy. What more do u expect from me?
Anyway, i will continue with my passion...
I'm in the make of a single sided swingarm for the Grom, also will be bringing Motobot racing exhaust line, titanium and stainless steel are the keywords.
 

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how are they genuine products? are they yosh cans that you cut down or modify?

while i can appreciate your small business, the US has a big problem w/ asian countries copying products and putting well know labels on them. they are not the same quality and most importantly not the original product.

if you can make good products they will become big name products like yosh and akrapovic, but selling your copies as them is NOT they way to earn business in other countries.

Good Luck w/ YOUR products.
 
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I don't think anyone is trying to destroy your business. You were slow to fully disclose that you are selling imitation Yoshimura labeled products. You are getting a hard time from people because of what and how you are selling some of your products. Even if you were 100% up front and honest that you were selling counterfeit exhaust systems you would still be hearing about it as a lot of people feel that it wrong in addition to being illegal.


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Seriously man, give it a rest, you made your point.. Good luck paying for brand names.

Ive sold connection rods in the past, which nobody in the us wanted. "Chinese crap" everyone said.
200 sets later my contact in sweden had zero failures (this is 4y ago, still zero failures to this date).

Still us peeps "they are crap, it is impossible to make quality items for 50$"
But buying the same rods from a us brand that ordered inthe same factory: sure they are better for sure because USA!

You guys need to drop your view on things.. Sure it sucks for composimo to see his swingarm copied, but what do you expect.. Thailand is such a huuuge market, it blows away any other continent. Having a 1/10th labor cost in comparison to for instance europe adds up to this (an asian is not spending 300 bucks for a item if that means giving a months pay)
The apac brands known here target the emea region, so also emea prices, so waaay overpriced


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Copying an item is one thing, putting the original Co's name on that product is entirely diff.

Nobody is questioning his quality, since nobody has seen it.
 
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Ah yes, something to clarify: he is not making the yoshi things himself, just buys from a wholesale guy.. (Im NOT talking about the titanium items or his body kits)


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