[norwegian_viking]

Greetings!

New member from Norway. Ordered the black edition couple of weeks ago and will pick it up when snow leaves. The price here is 6500USD (MSX). Guess that's the reason why it didn't get as popular here as first expected.

Quick question:
I've heard the right thing to do when getting a new bike is to drive it on low throttle the first xxx miles to get the engine to settle.. Did you do this, or is it just something people say but doesn't follow? I've also ordered the Tyga Slip On exhaust. Should I wait some miles before mount it? I am stoked about the bike and have been following the forum some months already. Would like the bike to get as good treatment as possible.


I'm not totally useless. I can be used as a bad example!

Go honda black!'

 

[COOTER]

I stayed under 7,000 rpm for the first 200 miles after that I redline every shift to set the piston rings!!! I did my first oil change/spinner-screen cleaning at 200 miles and did another at 900 miles just to be safe!!

 

[Gr0mkid89]

I rode soft for about 25 miles then hard since. Did oil change at 50 and full oil spinner and screen cleaning plus oil at 250. At my 600 valve check im doing oil again.

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[push bike]

This is from the owner's manual:
During the first 500 km (300 miles) of running, follow these guidelines to ensure your motorcycle’s future reliability and performance.
● Avoid full-throttle starts and rapid acceleration.
● Avoid hard braking.
● Ride conservatively

Keep in mind the bikes are dynoed at the factory so the piston rings should have already seated a bit. Mine had 3 miles on it when I took delivery.

 

[BiG Chris]

Ride it hard that's what I did took delivery and redlined every gear! 250 miles later I already put a big bore and turbo on mine

 

[norwegian_viking]

Excellent! I see people are running different strategies. One thing is what's best on paper. Another is what's best in practice.

What I'm curious about is whether people redlining it from the start experience more difficulties later on than the ones who doesn't. Or is it just a myth? Taken in mind both maintain the bike as recommended.

Pardon my English. I'm a viking.


I'm not totally useless. I can be used as a bad example!

Go honda black!'

 

[Juddvong]

I ran it hard straight out of the dealership. I always break in hard. It doesn't really matter, just MAKE SURE you do not keep it at a steady rpm too long for the first 50 miles or so.

 

[norwegian_viking]

Alright! Thanks!

 

[RaZed1]

Yeah, right to the bar out of the box-after you let it warm up. You have a very limited time to "seat" the rings to the cylinder. Rings do not seal just from friction, combustion chamber pressure gets behind them and forces them against the cylinder. Hard running= more pressure. Driving like grandma for break in won't hurt anything, but you won't get as good of a seal, which means less compression, and less power.

From working at a dealership, it's quite common for the PDI test ride to be at a 9/10th pace anyway.

OEMs keep printing that break in warning for a couple reasons. First, it's good advice to not go flat out on a new bike until you get familiar with how it handles. Telling people to do this "for their safety" is a sure way for it to be ignored, but say it's to help the engine and people will obsess and fret about it and follow it to the letter. Second, that new bike is also on new, slippery tires that need a good 50-100 miles to "scrub in". The gentle break in thing was kind of true 70 years ago, but it's one of those old wisdom things that keeps getting repeated, because people really like to have something to worry about.

 

[norwegian_viking]

In other words. If you put the pedal to the metal after the engine is warm, you might get an higher average speed on the bike later on? Since you get a better seal and more compression?

 

[Challyfreel]

This is from the owner's manual:
During the first 500 km (300 miles) of running, follow these guidelines to ensure your motorcycle’s future reliability and performance.
● Avoid full-throttle starts and rapid acceleration.
● Avoid hard braking.
● Ride conservatively

Keep in mind the bikes are dynoed at the factory so the piston rings should have already seated a bit. Mine had 3 miles on it when I took delivery.

Every brand new bike isn't dyno'd. Is it?


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[Challyfreel]

Someone once said(I believe it was on this forum) would a motorcycle dealer/company(honda) tell someone to ride there bike hard right out of the dealer lot or to take it easy the first few miles.

In my opinion I believe the recommended break in period is also so they can cover there ass.

Possible Scenario:

"Sorry I rear ended your Beemer the dealer I just bought this bike from told me to ride it hard and I couldn't stop in time, I'm really sorry"

That's what you would say if you weren't a pile of guts on the pavement.


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[Challyfreel]

^^^sorry I've been drinking, I hope that makes sense lol


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[norwegian_viking]

I'm sorry. I don't feel I have come to a conclusion yet.

Let's say you don't crash. What's best for the bike? Not on paper, but in real life.. Is it possible you could get a higher average top speed later on, if you push the engine hard the first miles?

 

[Challyfreel]

I'm sorry. I don't feel I have come to a conclusion yet.

Let's say you don't crash. What's best for the bike? Not on paper, but in real life.. Is it possible you could get a higher average top speed later on, if you push the engine hard the first miles?

I'm not sure if there's any REAL way to prove this, it's just going to be opinions but from my experience I was nice to the bike when I first got it. Meaning I just tried not to rev it to high but if I had to or wanted to for a fun corner I wouldn't hesitate to rip it. I only have about 550 miles on mine and all I can say is people are reporting higher speeds then me by about 5mph. My bike might not be fully broken in yet, I'm not sure.

Just some info on my bike. Full yoshi exhaust, and I removed the metal screen next to the air filter. I did my first oil change at 100 miles the second at 250 miles and the third at 500.

That's about all the info I got.


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[Challyfreel]

Also I believe that this bike is just about bullet proof either way you brake it in. I'm 21 years old and I plan on keeping my grom until the day I die, then again I don't use it to commute just for fun on weekends


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[norwegian_viking]

Awesomeness. Same do I. Thanks for feedback.

 

[AJ Nin]

I ride all my new bikes slow for the first 10 minutes until the engine gets warm, then I vary the rpms up to redline and let off the throttle completely which they say really helps seat the rings. I do this basically the first 50 miles, change the oil (and filter) and consider the bike broke in and ride it normally after that. That is basically the hard break-in in a nutshell.

 

[norwegian_viking]

Thank you. In my head that sounds like a smart way to do it. Guess I will follow same procedure, more or less.

 

[Jongsanim]

Hi Norwegian_Viking!

I'm riding the MSX myself in Oslo now (yes, NOW, with the snow and ice and all), if you live nearby or even IN Oslo we could try to meet up

For my first ride I let it warm up nicely, then I rode it hard on level ground (no big uphills or other "hard" terrain for the engine). I changed the oil on day 1, after riding from Moss to Oslo, to Royal Purple's break-in-oil. Further on I simply rode it hard and just recently changed to synthetic oil (will have to give you km-stand later). After changing to synthetic it feels alot smoother.

Nice to see another Norwegian

Edit: Used this for breaking-in the engine:
Break In Secrets--How To Break In New Motorcycle and Car Engines For More Power