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Hi all! Not too sure if this is the right section of the forum but it seemed to fit best.
A bit of backstory:
A few days ago I did a 'Try Ride' at a CTB center close to my home and I asked to learn on their Grom. I asked to ride this because I'm only 5'3" (160cm) and not the strongest so I thought this would be a good bike to learn on. The 'Try Ride' was something I was supposed to be doing to build more confidence but after the hour and twenty minutes I felt like I had even less confidence then before it.

A good section of the time I spent on the bike I spent stalling and feeling like it was attempting to fling me over the handle bars. The tap out point came when I locked the front wheel out and had to have the instructor help me push it back up from the awkward side lunge position I had caught it in (but that one, I will admit, was entirely my fault).

After long discussions with both my parents (both avid bike riders) we came to a couple of agreements, one of them being that my dad is going to set up one of his Honda bikes on a back paddock stand and tie off the front break so I can use it as a sort of rolling road and practice knowing where the clutch bite is and the speed to let the clutch out after the bite.

I can't help but feeling that if I endeavour to go back to the Try Ride place, I'll still be in the same situation as last time even with the extra practice. I'm only thinking this as I feel I was struggling with the clutch on the Grom. After finding the biting point on the Grom I felt like I had no more left in my fingers. To give you an idea, the instructor that was training me said if fully released was a 10, and fully in was a 1, then the bite point was somewhere around 6/7. That concept I could understand, however physically doing it was more of the struggle. Ive only got tiny "child" size hands (I'm 17) and my longest finger only measures out to about 7.5cm (2.9
inches), so by the time I had released the clutch to the biting point, I felt like I had no more finger left to control the gentle release after the bite to start the bike rolling.

I'm now kind of stuck in a limbo, because I loved sitting on the Honda Grom and i felt very comfortable with how low it was for my short little legs, but I also feel like if I go again and use the Honda Grom again, the same thing will just keep happening.
My dad (who took me to the try ride) said they had some Honda CB125F's there, and that he doesn't think I should get back on the Honda Grom to continue learning.
I was supper bummed by the experience because it was my plan to buy a Grom after my CBT because I thought they were awesome little bikes but after this my parents are telling me it's not a good idea.
I was just wondering if anyone had any advice? I did read on another post on this forum that i shouldn't be focusing on numbers so much because it'll cause me to overthink it (the instructor told me I needed to focus on getting it up to at least 3000revs before releasing the clutch).
But yeah, I would just like some of your guys' advice and opinions if you had any.
Thanks :)
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The stock Grom clutch is known to be very on/off. It does not really gradually engage and there isn't a good way to slip it. That is something your parents may not be aware of if they have not actually ridden one. The aftermarket can help a little bit in that department. Have you thought about the Navi? No clutch,. You could concentrate on your riding and then try to step up to the grom and learn the clutch part then.
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The stock Grom clutch is known to be very on/off. It does not really gradually engage and there isn't a good way to slip it. That is something your parents may not be aware of if they have not actually ridden one. The aftermarket can help a little bit in that department. Have you thought about the Navi? No clutch,. You could concentrate on your riding and then try to step up to the grom and learn the clutch part then.
Thank you so much for taking the time to respond! If I do pass my CBT and get a Grom I'll definitely look into getting an aftermarket clutch. For now I can't get a bike until I pass my CBT so my learning options are Grom or CB125F.
I also haven't found anywhere that sells Navi's in the UK which is a bit of a bummer, but thank you for the suggestion!
Wow, best of luck to you and I hope you get your Grom. Maybe there’s an after market clutch lever that will fit your hand or maybe your dad can mod something for you.
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Wow, best of luck to you and I hope you get your Grom. Maybe there’s an after market clutch lever that will fit your hand or maybe your dad can mod something for you.
Thank you! If I was to get a Grom we were looking at buying a set of adjustable levers so it could be in closer to make it easier for me, but we'll see how it goes. :)
The Grom clutch does tend to catch pretty high up. I rode a CBR300 and the clutch caught significantly closer, but thats a full size bike. As for the Grom, i would suggest using an adjustable clutch lever. And for the braking, understand you dont wanna slam the pedal or lever in. You can opt for the ABS model which is what i have and it will stop the front wheel from locking up if you hit the front brake too hard.
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The Grom clutch does tend to catch pretty high up. I rode a CBR300 and the clutch caught significantly closer, but thats a full size bike. As for the Grom, i would suggest using an adjustable clutch lever. And for the braking, understand you dont wanna slam the pedal or lever in. You can opt for the ABS model which is what i have and it will stop the front wheel from locking up if you hit the front brake too hard.
Thank you for the suggestion, if I do end up getting a Grom I'll definitely look at getting an adjustable clutch lever.
For now I'm practicing at home as my dad was able to set up one of his bikes "rolling road" style so I can practice clutch control before I actually go back on a moving bike.
And thanks for the ABS suggestion too, I will probably try my best to get one with ABS. I only probably locked it out because I was a little heavy handed on the throttle and didn't realise it was move as quick as it did, and then braked a bit too much.
Thank you so much for taking the time to respond! If I do pass my CBT and get a Grom I'll definitely look into getting an aftermarket clutch. For now I can't get a bike until I pass my CBT so my learning options are Grom or CB125F.
I also haven't found anywhere that sells Navi's in the UK which is a bit of a bummer, but thank you for the suggestion!
I wouldn’t bother with the aftermarket clutch. Sounds like the actual length of the clutch lever is too far out as it was for my girlfriend. Buy a cheap set of adjustable clutch and brake levers and your finger reach won’t be such a stretch causing you to strain releasing the clutch. Just a thought. If you can’t get the clutch release on a Grom then your not going to get it on a cb or anything for that matter.
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Hi all! Not too sure if this is the right section of the forum but it seemed to fit best.
A bit of backstory:
A few days ago I did a 'Try Ride' at a CTB center close to my home and I asked to learn on their Grom. I asked to ride this because I'm only 5'3" (160cm) and not the strongest so I thought this would be a good bike to learn on. The 'Try Ride' was something I was supposed to be doing to build more confidence but after the hour and twenty minutes I felt like I had even less confidence then before it.

A good section of the time I spent on the bike I spent stalling and feeling like it was attempting to fling me over the handle bars. The tap out point came when I locked the front wheel out and had to have the instructor help me push it back up from the awkward side lunge position I had caught it in (but that one, I will admit, was entirely my fault).

After long discussions with both my parents (both avid bike riders) we came to a couple of agreements, one of them being that my dad is going to set up one of his Honda bikes on a back paddock stand and tie off the front break so I can use it as a sort of rolling road and practice knowing where the clutch bite is and the speed to let the clutch out after the bite.

I can't help but feeling that if I endeavour to go back to the Try Ride place, I'll still be in the same situation as last time even with the extra practice. I'm only thinking this as I feel I was struggling with the clutch on the Grom. After finding the biting point on the Grom I felt like I had no more left in my fingers. To give you an idea, the instructor that was training me said if fully released was a 10, and fully in was a 1, then the bite point was somewhere around 6/7. That concept I could understand, however physically doing it was more of the struggle. Ive only got tiny "child" size hands (I'm 17) and my longest finger only measures out to about 7.5cm (2.9
inches), so by the time I had released the clutch to the biting point, I felt like I had no more finger left to control the gentle release after the bite to start the bike rolling.

I'm now kind of stuck in a limbo, because I loved sitting on the Honda Grom and i felt very comfortable with how low it was for my short little legs, but I also feel like if I go again and use the Honda Grom again, the same thing will just keep happening.
My dad (who took me to the try ride) said they had some Honda CB125F's there, and that he doesn't think I should get back on the Honda Grom to continue learning.
I was supper bummed by the experience because it was my plan to buy a Grom after my CBT because I thought they were awesome little bikes but after this my parents are telling me it's not a good idea.
I was just wondering if anyone had any advice? I did read on another post on this forum that i shouldn't be focusing on numbers so much because it'll cause me to overthink it (the instructor told me I needed to focus on getting it up to at least 3000revs before releasing the clutch).
But yeah, I would just like some of your guys' advice and opinions if you had any.
Thanks :)
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Snowmiser, you are not alone!!! I am also 5’3” with tiny hands and had issues with the clutch! It was really frustrating to the point that when I purchased my Grom, I was afraid to ride it home in fear I would stall out on a busy roadway.

I spoke to one of the mechanics at the dealership and he was able to make adjustments to the clutch cable simply by turning a knob located by the lever. He was able to bring the biting point in more and as a result, no more stalling! I never messed with the knob myself because whatever the mechanic did was perfect, so maybe if you reconsider the Grom, talk to whoever you are buying it from to see if they can help you with it.

Let us know what you get when you get it!!!
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Hi all! Not too sure if this is the right section of the forum but it seemed to fit best.
A bit of backstory:
A few days ago I did a 'Try Ride' at a CTB center close to my home and I asked to learn on their Grom. I asked to ride this because I'm only 5'3" (160cm) and not the strongest so I thought this would be a good bike to learn on. The 'Try Ride' was something I was supposed to be doing to build more confidence but after the hour and twenty minutes I felt like I had even less confidence then before it.

A good section of the time I spent on the bike I spent stalling and feeling like it was attempting to fling me over the handle bars. The tap out point came when I locked the front wheel out and had to have the instructor help me push it back up from the awkward side lunge position I had caught it in (but that one, I will admit, was entirely my fault).

After long discussions with both my parents (both avid bike riders) we came to a couple of agreements, one of them being that my dad is going to set up one of his Honda bikes on a back paddock stand and tie off the front break so I can use it as a sort of rolling road and practice knowing where the clutch bite is and the speed to let the clutch out after the bite.

I can't help but feeling that if I endeavour to go back to the Try Ride place, I'll still be in the same situation as last time even with the extra practice. I'm only thinking this as I feel I was struggling with the clutch on the Grom. After finding the biting point on the Grom I felt like I had no more left in my fingers. To give you an idea, the instructor that was training me said if fully released was a 10, and fully in was a 1, then the bite point was somewhere around 6/7. That concept I could understand, however physically doing it was more of the struggle. Ive only got tiny "child" size hands (I'm 17) and my longest finger only measures out to about 7.5cm (2.9
inches), so by the time I had released the clutch to the biting point, I felt like I had no more finger left to control the gentle release after the bite to start the bike rolling.

I'm now kind of stuck in a limbo, because I loved sitting on the Honda Grom and i felt very comfortable with how low it was for my short little legs, but I also feel like if I go again and use the Honda Grom again, the same thing will just keep happening.
My dad (who took me to the try ride) said they had some Honda CB125F's there, and that he doesn't think I should get back on the Honda Grom to continue learning.
I was supper bummed by the experience because it was my plan to buy a Grom after my CBT because I thought they were awesome little bikes but after this my parents are telling me it's not a good idea.
I was just wondering if anyone had any advice? I did read on another post on this forum that i shouldn't be focusing on numbers so much because it'll cause me to overthink it (the instructor told me I needed to focus on getting it up to at least 3000revs before releasing the clutch).
But yeah, I would just like some of your guys' advice and opinions if you had any.
Thanks :)
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Welcome to motorcycling, Konoseiya! Have you considered the C125 Cub or CT125 Trail as options? Since they both have clutchless semi-automatic drive (roll off throttle and just shift gears). They have the same 125 cc engine as the Grom and Monkey and are actually a little more stable on the road with the larger wheels and tires. The Cub has a slight step through design so you would be able to put both feet on the ground when you stop. Whatever you choose to ride, make certain you feel comfortable on the bike as you progress. Practice your skills at your pace, not anyone else's. I wish you a life long enjoyment of riding safely as I have experienced. I started on a "new" original "Monkey Bike" back in 1967 at age 16 and have been riding bikes of all sizes. I still ride at age 71! Enjoy and have a good life!
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Snowmiser, you are not alone!!! I am also 5’3” with tiny hands and had issues with the clutch! It was really frustrating to the point that when I purchased my Grom, I was afraid to ride it home in fear I would stall out on a busy roadway.

I spoke to one of the mechanics at the dealership and he was able to make adjustments to the clutch cable simply by turning a knob located by the lever. He was able to bring the biting point in more and as a result, no more stalling! I never messed with the knob myself because whatever the mechanic did was perfect, so maybe if you reconsider the Grom, talk to whoever you are buying it from to see if they can help you with it.

Let us know what you get when you get it!!!
oh my gosh im so glad im not alone in this 😅 thats great you were able to find a solution, i will definitely look into doing the same
thank you so much 😄
My current model Grom has a very light clutch and does not need the full travel of the lever to operate properly. My issue is slightly different to yours in that I have a left hand which, due to old age, can quickly tire. But I found that I could adjust the cable with more play than would be conventional yet it still frees effectively and easily. You should find the bite point can be much nearer the bars and this will work for you.
Hi all! Not too sure if this is the right section of the forum but it seemed to fit best.
A bit of backstory:
A few days ago I did a 'Try Ride' at a CTB center close to my home and I asked to learn on their Grom. I asked to ride this because I'm only 5'3" (160cm) and not the strongest so I thought this would be a good bike to learn on. The 'Try Ride' was something I was supposed to be doing to build more confidence but after the hour and twenty minutes I felt like I had even less confidence then before it.

A good section of the time I spent on the bike I spent stalling and feeling like it was attempting to fling me over the handle bars. The tap out point came when I locked the front wheel out and had to have the instructor help me push it back up from the awkward side lunge position I had caught it in (but that one, I will admit, was entirely my fault).

After long discussions with both my parents (both avid bike riders) we came to a couple of agreements, one of them being that my dad is going to set up one of his Honda bikes on a back paddock stand and tie off the front break so I can use it as a sort of rolling road and practice knowing where the clutch bite is and the speed to let the clutch out after the bite.

I can't help but feeling that if I endeavour to go back to the Try Ride place, I'll still be in the same situation as last time even with the extra practice. I'm only thinking this as I feel I was struggling with the clutch on the Grom. After finding the biting point on the Grom I felt like I had no more left in my fingers. To give you an idea, the instructor that was training me said if fully released was a 10, and fully in was a 1, then the bite point was somewhere around 6/7. That concept I could understand, however physically doing it was more of the struggle. Ive only got tiny "child" size hands (I'm 17) and my longest finger only measures out to about 7.5cm (2.9
inches), so by the time I had released the clutch to the biting point, I felt like I had no more finger left to control the gentle release after the bite to start the bike rolling.

I'm now kind of stuck in a limbo, because I loved sitting on the Honda Grom and i felt very comfortable with how low it was for my short little legs, but I also feel like if I go again and use the Honda Grom again, the same thing will just keep happening.
My dad (who took me to the try ride) said they had some Honda CB125F's there, and that he doesn't think I should get back on the Honda Grom to continue learning.
I was supper bummed by the experience because it was my plan to buy a Grom after my CBT because I thought they were awesome little bikes but after this my parents are telling me it's not a good idea.
I was just wondering if anyone had any advice? I did read on another post on this forum that i shouldn't be focusing on numbers so much because it'll cause me to overthink it (the instructor told me I needed to focus on getting it up to at least 3000revs before releasing the clutch).
But yeah, I would just like some of your guys' advice and opinions if you had any.
Thanks :)
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Go and try out the 125 and if you can manage and pass what it is you need to pass then go that rout and then buy your grom and get an aftermarket clutch at the same time then you can go to a parking lot and practice. But if you can get on a hill and start rolling then you can just drop the clutch in the start and maybe get better familiar with the clutch that way. At least build confident with it. Confidence is everything so just keep going every time you get on the from I bet your a little bit better just keep going don't give up don't quite you know what you want don't settle for anything els bro. You won't be happy with your self if you don't a from is a perfect learning bike so. Plus you can adjust the clutch to possibly work a little better for you. Any ways good luck and again don't quite ever get back up and think say I'm doing it and nothing is stopping me. It will no matter what get easier and easier every time you ride
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Hi all! Not too sure if this is the right section of the forum but it seemed to fit best.
A bit of backstory:
A few days ago I did a 'Try Ride' at a CTB center close to my home and I asked to learn on their Grom. I asked to ride this because I'm only 5'3" (160cm) and not the strongest so I thought this would be a good bike to learn on. The 'Try Ride' was something I was supposed to be doing to build more confidence but after the hour and twenty minutes I felt like I had even less confidence then before it.

A good section of the time I spent on the bike I spent stalling and feeling like it was attempting to fling me over the handle bars. The tap out point came when I locked the front wheel out and had to have the instructor help me push it back up from the awkward side lunge position I had caught it in (but that one, I will admit, was entirely my fault).

After long discussions with both my parents (both avid bike riders) we came to a couple of agreements, one of them being that my dad is going to set up one of his Honda bikes on a back paddock stand and tie off the front break so I can use it as a sort of rolling road and practice knowing where the clutch bite is and the speed to let the clutch out after the bite.

I can't help but feeling that if I endeavour to go back to the Try Ride place, I'll still be in the same situation as last time even with the extra practice. I'm only thinking this as I feel I was struggling with the clutch on the Grom. After finding the biting point on the Grom I felt like I had no more left in my fingers. To give you an idea, the instructor that was training me said if fully released was a 10, and fully in was a 1, then the bite point was somewhere around 6/7. That concept I could understand, however physically doing it was more of the struggle. Ive only got tiny "child" size hands (I'm 17) and my longest finger only measures out to about 7.5cm (2.9
inches), so by the time I had released the clutch to the biting point, I felt like I had no more finger left to control the gentle release after the bite to start the bike rolling.

I'm now kind of stuck in a limbo, because I loved sitting on the Honda Grom and i felt very comfortable with how low it was for my short little legs, but I also feel like if I go again and use the Honda Grom again, the same thing will just keep happening.
My dad (who took me to the try ride) said they had some Honda CB125F's there, and that he doesn't think I should get back on the Honda Grom to continue learning.
I was supper bummed by the experience because it was my plan to buy a Grom after my CBT because I thought they were awesome little bikes but after this my parents are telling me it's not a good idea.
I was just wondering if anyone had any advice? I did read on another post on this forum that i shouldn't be focusing on numbers so much because it'll cause me to overthink it (the instructor told me I needed to focus on getting it up to at least 3000revs before releasing the clutch).
But yeah, I would just like some of your guys' advice and opinions if you had any.
Thanks :)
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