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Started off just talking. So questions. Would the fuel injection potentially be a problem? Shapeshifter pointed out all or most of the waves have a kick start. What else is there to consider if there is a possibility of a kickstar

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There are other fuel injected scooters that are kick start as well, such as the Yamaha C3. I would look into how that whole setup works with getting fuel to the cylinder without the fuel pump priming.
 

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There are other fuel injected scooters that are kick start as well, such as the Yamaha C3. I would look into how that whole setup works with getting fuel to the cylinder without the fuel pump priming.
Fuel pump normally pressurises the system on a FI when you turn on ignition

You can bump start a manual FI car no issues and bump start a FI bike no issues - so a kick start (theoretically) should not be an issue - but it depends if the appropriate bits are in Gearbox

Also WHY?? Electrics much easier - I used to have an XR400R - without the electric leg!
 

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Kickstart isnt necessary. In case of starter button/battery failure;

Put trans in 2nd gear

Turn key to "on position"

Hold clutch in and give bike a running start

Jump onto bike, dump the clutch and start giving it gas

Viola. Engine is running.
Just like my old 74 bug


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They did make a hole in the engine case for it. I'm sure this engine configuration will be used for more than just the Grom.
This engine is used in several Honda bikes. None of which are marketed or have parts support in the U.S. Remember, this ins NOT a Z50 engine. Nor is a Honda Nice engine.

FRom wikipedia:
"The Honda Wave — also marketed as the NF series, Innova in Europe, and Supra X in Indonesia — are a series of light motorcycles manufactured by Honda that debuted in 1995 featuring an underbone design, with separate cosmetic plastic body panels over a structural steel tube chassis. The Wave series succeeds the Honda Cub which used pressed steel frame acting as both the structural chassis and cosmetic bodywork.
The Wave is available with three displacement options - 100 cc, 110 cc and 125 cc. The 100 and 110 cc models' engine is physically similar size to the Cub engine, sharing mountings, whilst the 125cc models use a larger engine, incompatible with the Cub and 100/110 mountings. In addition to the three models that use carburetors, Honda also produces the fuel-injected model.
In 2006, the Honda Wave series received a facelift. In addition, the 125 cc model includes a key slot cover for better protection against theft. Starting from 2007, the Honda Innova 125 in Europe began using fuel injection system to replace the carburetors used by most of the Honda Wave series."
 
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