100%.Whenever I see something broken, I have to wonder how the person was using the product.
cycling shops joke about all of the stories that begin with JRA (Just Riding Along). “I was just riding along when (fill in the blank) happened out of nowhere”. Often times you later learn that the person was abusing the crap out of the product, exceeding its design limits.
When I see YouTube videos of how some guys abuse these Groms, I shake my head in disbelief. I’m surprised they can take as much abuse as they do.
I disagree with Chaddington on Takegawa "stepping up." The customer bought the unbraced version, then abused it to the point of breaking two of them. The braced version is clearly necessary for racing, jumping, stunting, etc; The customer bought the wrong product for the application, that's not a warranty situation. Hard Racing did charity by buying the second swinger back from the customer, though I think their decision to sell it back to the community on an "as-is" basis for repair was suboptimal, it should have been scrapped.Takegawa evidently replaced this one time for the customer and said no to the second replacement because it was raced. They should have stepped up given what they charge and their reputation.
Grommuter said:I am interested in getting more information about the standard-length Kepspeed swingarms available for the Honda MSX125/Grom. There are extensive discussions of this product in the MSX125 and Grom community, and some clarifications on the design and details of your product would lead to several additional sales.
I am particularly interested in the structure of the joint between the axle mounts and the main arm. Is the vertical weld at that joint load-bearing, or does the end piece sleeve into the main body of the arm? In some competing products such as the Spyker and G-craft branded swingarms, catastrophic failures have been observed at this joint, so understanding how it was designed is important to my buying decision. If you are able to provide some information on the construction of both the braced and unbraced versions of the swingarm, this would be very helpful and I would be happy to share the information with the other potential customers.
While I appreciate the response, I am disappointed that they did not address the question. They also sent images of the wrong end of the product, which is a bit concerning.Kepspeed.co.uk said:I am attaching some pictures to help. Just so you know we have been selling Kepspeed parts for 18 months and sold several hundred swinging arms (mainly cub) and we have not had a single weld or bearings failure. We only have 1 silver swinging left in stock and is the one I have photographed. Our supplier is currently out of stock.
Motorkit definitely lists the swingarm for both the OG and the SF, I would be pretty disappointed if it didn't fit in stock form, I don't really see why it wouldn't though 🤔. I commute on my Grom so the catalytic converter and the stock silencer are important to me.Kepspeed swingarm and Kepspeed twin exhausts on my 2016 SF
You CANNOT use this type of swing arm on the SF with the standard low mount exhaust due to restricted space!
Swingarm has needle roller bearings and inserts to take up any end-float. Required two 10mm wide, 18mm diameter M12 spacers as the standard axle was too long at 305mm.
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That white streak in the pic is where the chain physically contacts the swingarm. It's about 2 inches long and up at the front of the swingarm. That's the only place it touches. Monitoring the tape will let me know how hard the chain hits by how much the tape gets damaged. I don't believe this is a serious problem. Just something to address.Tooter, are you saying the chain does make contact with the metal, or are you saying that you put the pvc tape on there just in case?
I couldn’t tell from the pic.