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I bought my original Grom from Kent Power Sports at the end of Feb for $4134 OTD. I also separately purchased the prepaid maintenance for 3 yrs at $999. The prepaid maintenance contract is tied to the Grom's VIN, which is important in a minute. Within 30 days the Grom had been totaled in a crash with a BMW, so while I'm recovering from injuries, I've been looking for a replacement bike. I wasn't thrilled with my experience with Kent because they are HORRIBLE at returning phone calls, their labor rates were ridiculous (something like $250 to mount 2 tires!!!), and they seemed to know nothing about aftermarket parts/mods for the Grom. They even told me point blank that I could get better prices on aftermarket parts on the web. Great business model!

I contacted Woods Honda in Austin who were much more responsive, plus they had a customized Grom in the store and seemed pretty up to speed on aftermarket goodies for the bike. I was handing them a deposit check when I discovered they wanted $4600 OTD and I damned near walked out on the spot, but the sales manager agreed to sell me one for $4100 after I told him that was a no-go. A few days later I get a call that they just got a used Grom on trade with <200 miles on it, but in red. I wanted black, but don't really care that much. So I was prepared to buy it until they tried to charge me $4100 OTD on a freaking used bike. I said "you're going to charge me inflated freight and dealer prep when you already collected that from the previous owner?" They didn't care and said "that's the price". I drove up there the next day and picked up my deposit. You can shear a sheep many times, but you can skin him only once.

Back to the prepaid maintenance - Kent Power Sports is now trying to force me to pay for the $999 maintenance even though the bike is totaled, I never made a single installment payment towards the maintenance contract, and never received a single service or benefit from the contract. They could do the right and honorable thing of tearing up the contract, but instead they choose to be blood sucking scum to try and bilk me out of a grand. They said they would allow transfer of the maintenance to something else if purchased at Kent, but this is not in the contract nor will they put it in writing. Even though I wasn't thrilled with them, they also told me they had two black Groms in stock at the time and I said "Great! I'll take one. I'll come give you a check tomorrow." Salesman said they were in the shop but not in the system yet and he'd give me a call as soon as he had the VINs. I still haven't gotten a call back from the salesman after 2 weeks. I went down there last week because the woman in finance either refused or was unable to send me a copy of the maintenance contract. Every day that I called her it was some BS of "Our email is down.", "I sent it yesterday, didn't you get it?", or "I'm making a copy right now", etc, etc, one excuse after another. I finally had to drive my ass down there with broken-foot and walk in on crutches to get a copy of the damned contract. When I got there I walked right by the sales guy who sold me the first Grom about 40 days prior, and whom I'd just asked a few days earlier to sell me another Grom. He said nothing but 'hi'. Not a word about a new Grom.

I've since made some calls around the state and found much more reasonable prices and dealers. I encourage everyone to do the same. Any of you guys in Austin are also welcome to borrow my new hitch-mounted bike hauler if you want to buy a Grom somewhere in driving distance without paying inflated prices to the lame greedy dealers here in Austin.
 

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That is why when I bought my Grom in Northern Calif I research all dealers with in a 100 mile radius of where I live and called most of them asking about availability of the Grom and OTD price of the Grom and I found a few places that were or seem to be honest people/dealer.

You just have to do your own research and google as much information and reviews about dealers/manufacturers/products etc until you can come up with a educated guess if you should spend your hard earned money or not at these places.
 

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I personally find it difficult to be angry at a dealer for asking more than I am willing to pay for a motorcycle. If the dealer is asking $10,000 and can get it fine, but not from me. It is not the dealer's fault that I am unwilling to pay what they are asking. I'd love to have a new Goldwing but I'm not willing to pay $25,000 for one. Same with the Forza, I really dig that scooter but I'm not willing to pay what they want for it. But I'm not angry at the dealer.
 
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Is the maintenance contract like the extended service contract? I originally purchased one with my grom and had many problems my dealership trying to cancel the thing. They refused to cancel my contract until after 120 days so they could receive commission.

On my contract it shows you can cancel within 60 days and anytime after that gets prorated. If they aren't helping, I would contact the service company directly.


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The prepaid maintenance is different from the extended warranty, which I declined. Prepaid maintenance was a separate purchase from the bike. It wasn't financed, but was instead set up to be paid in 12 monthly installments from a debit card of the 15th of each month. Strange coincidence perhaps, but I lost that debit card last night right after I withdrew a week's worth of spending cash at the ATM. I'm sure the dealer will call at some point for the new card number, and you can bet I will bend over backwards to accommodate them since they're trying to pull a BOHICA on me!

I've spoken with insurance (the responsible party and I both have Progressive) about covering this as part of my property claim since it is tied to VIN on the Grom and is "un-cancelable" per contract terms, and I probably could have it covered if I pressed it. But frankly, I don't think Progressive or anyone else should have to pay for a service that was not and never will be delivered just so a greedy dealer can pocket $999 of free money.

And with a few phones calls, I found dealers with 200 miles and ~$3900 OTD. A little further away and I can get $3700 OTD, too. Lots of options now that I am more patient about it. Can't ride for another month or two anyway.
 

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EZ,

I'm with andr3w, should you be able to call honda? And cancel the contract? The refund is prorated so the sooner you get started the better.

When, i sell a car, iphone, etc. i.e. anything that i bought a warranty for. I always call them to cancel the warranty to recover so of the money.

I sold my wife's altima last year, and got back $550. Never could figure out how much i paid though. Couldn't remember.
 

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Yeah, this isn't a warranty, it's prepaid oil changes, valve adjustments, etc, etc.

And the contract specifically states "non-cancellable, non-returnable". However, to get their $999 out of me, they're going to need an attorney. And just like in the tale of the frog and the scorpion, I'd rather take us both down than let them win uncontested.
 

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I personally find it difficult to be angry at a dealer for asking more than I am willing to pay for a motorcycle. If the dealer is asking $10,000 and can get it fine, but not from me. It is not the dealer's fault that I am unwilling to pay what they are asking. I'd love to have a new Goldwing but I'm not willing to pay $25,000 for one. Same with the Forza, I really dig that scooter but I'm not willing to pay what they want for it. But I'm not angry at the dealer.
I hear ya, and you're a better person than I for not taking it personally. I would have given them full MSRP + sales tax + documentation fee, but not a cent more since the bike was used. It was mainly that they were trying to collect what were already artificially inflated freight and prep fees a second time on the same bike that got under my skin. Oh well, they lost one sale for sure, but I doubt they're losing any sleep over it.
 

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The other driver is legally responsible for the accident, and we both have Progressive Insurance so they've been easy to deal with. The maintenance contract is tied to the VIN so it will be covered by the other driver's insurance policy. There is no clause in the contract dealing with total loss. Initially the dealership said they would have to check, but felt they could just tear up the contract since it hadn't been submitted and no service had been performed. They also asked if I was going to buy another bike and I said almost verbatim "I plan to do so, but I must have this claim completely settled before I can since this is tied to the VIN, and in no way am I committing to buying another bike. If I am still legally responsible for this maintenance contract on the crashed Grom, then the insurance company is going to have to cover that under the property claim before I move forward on buying anything else." That's probably when KPS figured out they could hang this on the insurance and get paid for doing nothing. They've done nothing but stall and make excuses for providing a copy of the contract hoping I'd relent and settle the claim with insurance and give up any legal rights.

But if all that fails, then yeah, it's just fuck it.

And if anyone does have to pay for it, I will do my damnedest to make sure that whoever buys the Grom from salvage gets the contract and hopefully make the dealer deliver the service.
 

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Yeah, this isn't a warranty, it's prepaid oil changes, valve adjustments, etc, etc.

And the contract specifically states "non-cancellable, non-returnable". However, to get their $999 out of me, they're going to need an attorney. And just like in the tale of the frog and the scorpion, I'd rather take us both down than let them win uncontested.

Give them hell!
 

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Yeah, this isn't a warranty, it's prepaid oil changes, valve adjustments, etc, etc.

And the contract specifically states "non-cancellable, non-returnable". However, to get their $999 out of me, they're going to need an attorney. And just like in the tale of the frog and the scorpion, I'd rather take us both down than let them win uncontested.
They don't need a lawyer to take you to small claims court. Easy win for them as it is a straight forward contracts case. You seem pretty inflexible and will end up paying for it monetarily and emotionally. Your call, but don't expect everyone to be on your side. Man up and deal with it rather than whining about it on a public forum.
 

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They don't need a lawyer to take you to small claims court. Easy win for them as it is a straight forward contracts case. You seem pretty inflexible and will end up paying for it monetarily and emotionally. Your call, but don't expect everyone to be on your side. Man up and deal with it rather than whining about it on a public forum.
Paying someone $999 for absolutely nothing in return is not "manning up", it's lordosis. If anyone is responsible for paying the $999, it will most likely be Progressive Insurance under the other driver's policy. The dealer has done nothing but stall and make excuses for failing to satisfy simple requests for the documentation I needed to provide to Progressive in order to have them review this as part of the property claim, hence my public whining. And it does affect them, however immeasurably small - it still has an effect. I hope those of you who do side with the dealer in this case also have Progressive insurance so you can help pay off this debt for me with your premiums. I still have the medical claim to settle later on, so I'm certainly not too worried about the net effect. Someone will likely be buying me more than just a new Grom after an ambulance ride and compound fracture.
 
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