[mattallac]

So I bought a Tyga moto magot , As far as quality goes I am very happy with it , but this thing is super loud . My focus when buying an exhaust was price , sound and getting rid of the cat.My plan is to add a pre muffler to quiet the bike down as this is the only exhaust I like as far as looks. Who else owns a full system by tyga out there , and what do you think about your exhaust?

 

[agentbulu]

I have the Tyga Carbon Oval full system and it is loud. But probably still not as loud as the Maggot. Sitting on the bike it is louder than I expected, especially WOT, but after 2-3 weeks I love it. The bike is small, the exhaust is short and located right under the seat and there is not much wind noise at low speeds, so I think it is reasonable, that it feels louder than on other bikes. Also due to lack of power we are riding most of the time close to WOT. I still don't know how it sounds for the outside world, so I will ask a friend to ride it and find out. It is not really comfortable on a long ride outside of town, but the cars can definitely hear me in the city. And I wanted to change the exhaust, because "loud pipes save lives", so how I could complain.
:in love:

 

[Woodlow]

I have the moto maggot slip on and love it, pretty loud but that offers the safety factor of actually being heard. Looking to get the rest of the exhaust around christmas time, moving this month is killing my grom budget lol

 

[EdPrez]

I went with the slip on, because I knew, based on videos, and opinions the Full System would be too loud for my taste. To me the power gain, if any, didn't justify spending the extra money, or deal with how loud it was. However, the full system does look nice.

 

[intergalactic808]

I have the moto maggot full system. It is loud but has a nice tone, I like it. I have a k&n r1100 air filter and I swear the intake is louder than the exhaust at WOT lol! I wish Tyga would make a low exhaust.


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[Gremlin]

Any noticeable gains? With the carbon full?
Really want this set up, but want the most gain i can get. I like it loud!

Here's what Paul sent me:
http://www.tyga-performance.com/site/images/msx-dyno-tyga-full-tyga-slip-on-std-c614d870.jpg


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[agentbulu]

First I did the air box mod and I felt that the engine revs from 6000-8000rpm, much easier or faster.
But I do not really feel extra power from the exhaust system. My top speed tests are not really comparable, as the wheather is much cooler since I have the exhaust. I don't wear the same gears nowdays, so even my wheight differs. Maybe the dyno would show some improvements, but I can not confirm it. Still it is great stuff. I chose Tyga because of the size and the look and of course the price was also good.

 

[mattallac]

thanks for all the feed back , I sourced an fmf 125 cc muffler and I am in the process to use it as a pre muffler . as far as cost and look tyga is the only system I am interested in , if they made a pre muffler I think it would be a plus , and grom shoppers would be interested .

 

[mattallac]

well I put a shortened fmf 125 cc muffler on my tyga race exhaust system and it sounds much better and now some of the torque is back . I would post pics but I still cant up load pics on this forum .

 

[TerribleTarans]

I have the Tyga moto maggot full system...sometimes I think its too loud other times I love it. I am not sure if I am going to keep it or not...I might throw it up for sale at a great price if I see something new that catches my eye. I plan on having my Grom be ever changing since parts are pretty cheap.

 

[Gremlin]

Just got my debadged tyga carbon exhaust inn. I absolutely love it. Way louder then I had expected. Watching all the exhaust videos don't do it justice. I like it loud so... Braap braap!!!

Also I have custom exhaust decals coming inn. PM me if you want one. I will try and get it in the size you want/need. This is what it will look like. Printed on high heat foil.

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[craigo298er]

I don't think I've ever heard of an aftermarket pipe advertising "quieter than stock" except possibly for Hardly Dangerous maybe. So if you want quiet, keep it stock. And if you think the Grom is loud like that, I'd be willing to put my annual salary down that my R6 or my Tuono are waaaaay louder with their pipes than the Grom.

 

[mattallac]

Well if you want to be that guy so be it . There is a difference between loud with performance gains and loud with minimal gains .
The race system killed all the torque and a pre muffler brought it back . Like my OP said , I wanted a race system to get rid of the cat and a good exhaust tone is a plus .

 

[craigo298er]

I'm just pointing out the fact that when you remove things that are designed for emissions laws (both gasses and sound), then things are going to change. You can always repack your muffler if you want, but there are a lot of people on the forum here that, from what I have read, gripe when things aren't the way they expected (My favorite does have to be one I saw several months ago about "why isn't my brake lever on my left handlebar?"). I understand a lot of guys have never had a bike before, but I do expect people to use the thing on top of their neck, mostly their brain. I understand for the younger people out there (and I'm only 28), that they expect to be able to look on the internet for everything and have a well informed idea of what things are going to be like. Real world things are different.

And loud with minimal gains is I guess what you're referring to. I'd say close to 10% gains in hp numbers is a GIANT gain from an exhaust. When you're starting with 9hp, nothing will be a big gain until you break it down into percentage. A 1hp gain from 9 to 10 is just over 11%. If I had a 10% gain from my Leo Vince slip-on with my Aprilia, I would be pushing 172hp at the rear wheel. Instead, I got only about 2-3%.

 

[iluvgroms]

I like my tyga,it is just loud enough

 

[mattallac]

Well your 26 and I am 37 , been around the motorcycle game for about 20 years and I was a Honda , Suzuki and sea doo tech at a few dealerships . Loud does not mean HP gains or a faster bike . Torque is the major player in this little bikes case and it needs back pressure , this is a low tech mini that needs as much torque as possible and a pre muffler is an easy power gain .

 

[craigo298er]

Well your 26 and I am 37 , been around the motorcycle game for about 20 years and I was a Honda , Suzuki and sea doo tech at a few dealerships . Loud does not mean HP gains or a faster bike . Torque is the major player in this little bikes case and it needs back pressure , this is a low tech mini that needs as much torque as possible and a pre muffler is an easy power gain .

but in my original post, I never said anything about power gains/losses or whatnot, just noise. the OP said it was louder, and I was saying that all aftermarket exhausts are going to change the exhaust note, and most are going to be louder. OEM manufacturers have to comply with laws and regulations, and that is why when you purchase an exhaust from said aftermarket companies, they say "for closed course competition only" or something to the effect. it also gives them deniability of responsibility for the end user's useage of the bike if it does fail noise emissions.

 

[mattallac]

You are correct , I guess the best thing to say is all of us want power gains and a full exhaust is part of the equation , not the solution . I can tell you that a arata exhaust will make more power on an r1 than a hot bodies kit and the arata has a quieter note . As far as my preference I like an exhaust with a good tone and IMO the tyga was way to loud with large power loss on the bottom and mid range .

 

[tygapaul]

Have you got any dynographs to show the power loss as this should not be the case? All ours showed an improvement.




http://www.tyga-performance.com/site/images/msx-dyno-tyga-full-tyga-slip-on-std-5944862b.jpg

 

[mattallac]

I work at a dyno shop and a dyno is not the end all tool , real world riding is the big test . I would imagine that most of the riders on this forum are using there bikes on public streets and the ride ability went up greatly when I added a pre silencer . Like I stated in the op this is the only exhaust I wanted as far as quality and looks and I am pleased with those aspects but try adding a pre silencer and ride the bike , I had 5 friends test the results and all 5 liked the pre silencer better as far as ride ability , torque and exhaust tone