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I hear ya, for what its worth when running exhaust, intake, Pcv with afr value of 13.3 wot and mild timing bump on my stock bore grom I averaged 120miles per tank... But im in Florida, environment might have something to do with the differences.
Wow! That's great! Thanks for you info man.

Havent sat in Cali traffic in over 20yrs,
You are a very wise man! I want to move out of California, this is the worse state of the union. Lots of corruption, lots of taxes to pay for the illegal aliens and politicians luxurious living, traffic is horrible, lots of crime, drugs, crazy Hollywood people, you name it.

I personally PROBLY wouldnt get on the freeway with a mostly stock grom,
Yeah, one needs a 150 cc legally to get on the FWY so they say but I have seen many 125cc and even scooters on the FWYs.
Once I learn more ridding this bike, because I'm a new biker, I'm planning to get on the 10 FWY since the top speed at 3pm is like 20mph or less.

I thought lane splitting was Legal in Cali you shouldnt be sitting in any traffic.
Yes, this is the only good thing in California, you can split lanes of course in a motorcycle. But I'm taking the streets since I'm afraid still to go on the FWYs.

Unless you were pertaining to sitting in traffic in your Vehicle that definitly sucks ass and thats everyday for Cali
Yes, this is horrible, no way to go in a car about 4pm, just idling. This is exactly why I got the Grom in the first place, even on the Grom still takes me like 45 minutes to get home in the afternoon. I appreciate your info. Keep ridding safely.
 

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Tank wise, I don't know what I get, all I know is when my gauge starts to flash I'm looking for a gas station. Most fuel I've put in at one stop is about 0.92 gallons. I don't remember what the MPG worked out to be on that but it was around 70-80mpg (181cc rich tune). All I know is I took a sharp turn right after gauge started to flash an I starved the engine of fuel. So regardless of 1.5 gallons of fuel or not, less than 1 gallon is useable for how I ride my Grom. I'll take some notes and see what I'm getting at the next fuel stop. I was running a rich tune but just leaned it out about a week ago so we will see.
 

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I bought the Grom for daily commute only not to do wheelies. I don't want to keep paying $300 a month on gasoline and sitting 4 hrs in traffic daily.
I bought my Grom for the exact same reason, my HD Street Glide can't move though the traffic as easily. Question is why are you sitting in traffic with a Grom? If it takes me 15 minutes to get to work in the morning, I know for a fact it takes 15 minutes to get home in the afternoon heavy traffic if I'm on my Grom. Reason why my Glide doesn't get any love from me during the weekdays now, lol.
 

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I bought the Grom for daily commute only not to do wheelies. I don't want to keep paying $300 a month on gasoline and sitting 4 hrs in traffic daily. Have you driven at 7am or 4pm in the 405, 10, 5, 710, 105, 110 fwys lately?
I'm the same, John. I ride my Grom for cheap daily practical useful transportation, not to perform circus clown tricks on it. When there's traffic I lane split... but ONLY through vehicles that are standing still waiting for red lights... NEVER when they're moving. That's suicide. Way too many sudden lane changers. Even at today's gas prices my fuel cost is only 2.5 cents a mile. :)

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I'm the same, John. I ride my Grom for cheap daily practical useful transportation, not to perform circus clown tricks on it. When there's traffic I lane split... but ONLY through vehicles that are standing still waiting for red lights... NEVER when they're moving. That's suicide. Way too many sudden lane changers. Even at today's gas prices my fuel cost is only 2.5 cents a mile. :)

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I ride my groms like I stole it in Santa Clara Silicon valley where every other car seems to be a Tesla electric or some fancy BMW, etc. But they are stuck in traffic while I zip on thru on the grom and move out of the way of bigger faster MC that also split lanes.

The grom is great in the City of San Francisco esp down at fishman's wharf area or crossing any of the bridges in the Bay area.

The only down side in the Bay area with the grom is that it sometimes can't trigger the Left turn lane lights so I wait till it is clear and make a left turn when it is safe. Usually if I have to wait for a second change of light for a left hand turn and the light does not change to a left arrow that is when I do the hooligan left turn.
 

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I'm the only one here who keeps gas mileage logs.
My Grom is averaging 139.0 mpg and my 12 year old DRZ400 is averaging 69.4 mpg.
Thanks for you info. You are a very meticulous person! 139.0 mpg is awesome!
 

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I bought my Grom for the exact same reason, my HD Street Glide can't move though the traffic as easily. Question is why are you sitting in traffic with a Grom? If it takes me 15 minutes to get to work in the morning, I know for a fact it takes 15 minutes to get home in the afternoon heavy traffic if I'm on my Grom. Reason why my Glide doesn't get any love from me during the weekdays now, lol.
Wow! that's great! you must be a very experienced and professional bike rider, I'm just a new rider, still a little afraid of the wind when I'm going at 50mph, afraid of left turns, I try to do left hand green arrows only:big smile:
When I see another rider, I try to go behind him or at least I feel better knowing that I'm not alone.:crazy:
 

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Yes, I know, but still for me is good to know how many miles per gallon this motorcycle makes and what is the full range with a full tank of gas.
I know if I go with a bigger bike like a 650cc ~ 750cc the fuel consumption is almost as a corolla or civic or worse.

For example, the CBR300R makes 71 mpg, so they say, real life driving I'm guessing 50 ~ 60 mpg. So judging from these figures a 750cc I'd be getting like 30 mpg less than a corolla. Interesting no one tells exactly how many mpg they get in their bike. Even in Honda's site, they don't put that info. What a tabue!

my big ole 2004 honda 919 (919cc's) with rather antiquated and simple fuel injection gets ~ 50mpg if im nice, 40 if im blasting the canyons. CC isnt everything... my WR450 dirtbike gets ~30mpg with half the ccs of the big street bike. But i see what you are getting at.


That stated, cost difference of buying a high mpg motorcycle like the grom and a car you already own take FOREVER to recoop
 

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I ride my groms like I stole it in Santa Clara Silicon valley where every other car seems to be a Tesla electric or some fancy BMW, etc. But they are stuck in traffic while I zip on thru on the grom and move out of the way of bigger faster MC that also split lanes.
Yes, that is the great benefit of ridding a bike vs. driving the most expensive car:big smile:
This is so much fun!

The grom is great in the City of San Francisco esp down at fishman's wharf area or crossing any of the bridges in the Bay area.
I hear you.

The only down side in the Bay area with the grom is that it sometimes can't trigger the Left turn lane lights so I wait till it is clear and make a left turn when it is safe. Usually if I have to wait for a second change of light for a left hand turn and the light does not change to a left arrow that is when I do the hooligan left turn.
In my situation there are always cars waiting (stopped) to make the left hand turn, so I just go in front of the first car and I raise my left hand to ask their permission and they are always OK for me to proceed ahead. If they are already moving I stay behind the cars and act as normal car. If I'm the first one to make a left hand turn I wait until all opposite traffic is completely stopped and watch for pedestrians crossing before I proceed. Never assume that your way is clear to go.
 

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Wow! that's great! you must be a very experienced and professional bike rider, I'm just a new rider, still a little afraid of the wind when I'm going at 50mph, afraid of left turns, I try to do left hand green arrows only:big smile:
When I see another rider, I try to go behind him or at least I feel better knowing that I'm not alone.:crazy:
lol, it was in no way targeting you for being "afraid", lol. Trust me I take my time and walk the bike at certain points in traffic, but I keep my bike moving regardless. To be honest I always keep a little bit of fear when riding at all times. When one gets over-confident and loses all fear then they are destined to have something bad happen. Never lose that fear. I may be an experienced rider but when I moved to California I did a lot of sitting in traffic and actually refused to lane split, it was a bit nerve wracking, that was until my HD twin cam started hitting 345 degree head temps in traffic, so I decided to just go for it. Take your time and do what you are comfortable with and always remember, every "cager is out to get you, lol.
 

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lol, it was in no way targeting you for being "afraid", lol. Trust me I take my time and walk the bike at certain points in traffic, but I keep my bike moving regardless. To be honest I always keep a little bit of fear when riding at all times. When one gets over-confident and loses all fear then they are destined to have something bad happen. Never lose that fear. I may be an experienced rider but when I moved to California I did a lot of sitting in traffic and actually refused to lane split, it was a bit nerve wracking, that was until my HD twin cam started hitting 345 degree head temps in traffic, so I decided to just go for it. Take your time and do what you are comfortable with and always remember, every "cager is out to get you, lol.
I did not feel that you are targeting me, not at all. I agree with you, thanks for sharing your experience with me. I'm learning a lot from all of you guys. Thanks all.
 

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The first couple of gallons I was having too much fun to keep track! :blackgrom:

The last couple of fill ups were looking at 100mpg. The gauge seems quite accurate, when down to the last bar it takes 1gal to fill up.

Finally pushed it tonight until the blinking fuel segment came on, that was at 120 miles on the trip meter.
 

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Thanks for you info. You are a very meticulous person! 139.0 mpg is awesome!
I'm constantly experimenting.
A lightened 216 pound bike with a TOCE exhaust, DingerBuilt intake, and Yuminashi ECU gets me 142.6 mpg. Right now I'm still testing the IXIL exhaust which is getting 137.2 mpg so far which is slightly less than the TOCE. Warm California weather and Summer blend really help an air cooled engine to run more efficiently So this Summer my goal is to hit 150 mpg.
 

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You could check out Fuelly, there are a number of Grom on there. Problem is, it won't tell you anything about HOW people ride them.

Honda Grom 125 MPG - Actual MPG from 215 Honda Grom 125 owners
I get decent gas mileage by riding my Grom like a regular transportation vehicle. The engine is always between 3,000 and 6,000 rpms and because it gets good low rpm torque it doesn't need to be wound up to get moving. 4th gear is good down to 26 mph without lugging the engine.
 

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Not any more! :wave:

I keep both spreadsheets and Fuelly logs for all of my vehicles. I also have every window sticker from every new vehicle I've ever purchased since my first one in 1992.

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Sounds like we both have the same disease. (lol)

My last two Grom fill ups averaged 148.9 mpg... a combination of hot weather, Summer blend gasoline, and short shifting. ;) I also save the original stickers and paperwork for all my new vehicles and bikes and give them to the new owners when I sell them.
 
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