[Scoobs]

Here's my reasoning for getting the Honda Grom over a CBR250R,

The CBR250R is a great 1st bike but you will grow out of it quick and you have to sell it too soon down the road.

The Grom isn't fast but you will do lots of stupid things on it and learn from it with out hurting your budget too much. Modding it will make it a bit faster, keep you entertained and don't forget bore and big bore kits. The big difference between the 2 bikes, you won't need to sell the Grom ever, you will just buy an other bike to add to your garage

A fun toy never gets boring, anything that is known as a "beginner" equipment gets boring fast :crazy:

 

[FXCLM5]

well here is my take

if its your first bike - dont get a grom

a grom is a toy and not a real motorcycle

you wont experience the freedom of a real motorcycle, until you ride a real motorcycle

a cbr250 is a full sized real motorcycle, you will experience what that freedom is because you have the ability to position yourself out of traffic situations,

a grom is great for a toy and you use it as a toy/low mileage commutes - since it cant go on freeway, and a great training wheels to get ppl into riding, but dont think you will experience what riding is about just with a toy grom.

But a 250 ninja, cbr or even a 250 sumo will give you more of the riding experience then a grom will ever do.

And dont think you will seriously ever NEED more then 250cc, you really dont need it, you may want more but just lookat what 125cc and 250cc trackbikes can do, they can run circles around litrebikes, its not the bike its the rider. The 250 is a great bike to start with, a grom a great toy but you wont experience the full effect of riding since its a 3/4 size toy

 

[Scoobs]

The CBR250R is more a real bike but I know I'll have to buy an other more powerful bike down the road. With the Grom I can play a bit, ride it like I stole it and buy a bigger bike later on. Keeping both.
I have a problem about selling the CBR250R to get a more powerful bike. Passing power is the biggest reason to get a larger bike later on. I saw a lot of vids on the CBR250R and it's a great bike, easy to ride, great in the turns and comfortable.

That said, the Grom seem to be a hoot, every riders that I've chat with have a larger motorcycle in their garage and they ride more often on the Grom. That says a lot about how good that little toy is. For sure the CBR250R would get me more places....

If I had it my way I would get a Grom and a CBR500F at the same time but money is the biggest issue I got.

 

[CiscoSanJose]

Here is my take, my first motorcycle in Calif was a 1987 YSR-50, reason it was cheap $1350 OTD from Fremont Yamaha. Second reason that I got the YSR-50 was that it was small, it would fit in my apartment and in my small 1973 Datsun pickup truck. The gas mileage was great.

A lot of my friends at the gym teased me about the small toy motorcycle but I did not care. I rode the YSR all over Santa Clara valley, San Jose, Sunnyvale, Alviso, Milpitas,Santa Cruz, Half moon bay, South San Francisco.

I rode the great Hwy 9 to Alice's and also rode the east bay Niles Canyon road and almost got taken out by a woman who ran a stop sign.

I used the YSR-50 to go to work and it served it's dues as a good gas mileage motorcycle.

I took my Calif motorcycle driver's test on the YSR-50 and passed on my first try doing all those in out turns and following the painted lines etc.

I did a bunch of mods on the YSR-50 so that I could get up to 60-70 mph range.

from there my second motorcycle was a 1988 Honda VLX-600 and after that was a 1989 GSXR-1100, than a 1992 Harley FATBOY, a 1998 Suzuki TL-1000R, 1999 Suzuki 1300 Hayabusa and the list goes on.

Remember one person's opinion is just his or her's opinion, the bottom line is can you afford the motorcycle, the mc insurance, and is that mc going to help you get to work, get your grocery, etc.

Just enjoy life you only live once.

 

[Juddvong]

well here is my take

if its your first bike - dont get a grom

a grom is a toy and not a real motorcycle

Agree 100%. Although right now the Grom seems more fun, I could never sell the big bike for the Grom. 2 different animals.

 

[Scoobs]

I do think the Grom is a toy also but it can be stretch out to be a main bike for a lot of people who commutes off highways. It's also a bike you keep to play around even if you buy a larger bike. It's like having a CTX1300T and a CB1000RA, they maybe bought the CB1000RA to have fun and saw they needed a Touring bike. But they wont sell the fun bike

I still think the Grom can be a good 1st bike depending on what you need and do with it. If you do lots of highway and need higher speeds the CBR250R is the best bike for the job.

 

[AJ Nin]

I agree the Grom is a better learning bike because it is more forgiving, lighter, cheaper, probably safer. If someone needs the bike for the highway to commute though, the Grom might not work out. It doesn't stop me though. I put most of my Grom miles on I-35. I think cost and looks are what really determine what someone buys. I would never buy a Harley, Gold Wing, even if a report came out that they were safest and they sold for $6000. The Grom style is not going to appeal to many of the same people as the 250 cause the looks are so different. There really isn't anything available to compare to the Grom, but there are several 250s and the Ninja 300 to compare to the CBR 250. If I liked the CBR 250 and Honda bikes, I would be looking at the 500 models too.

 

[RaZed1]

blah blah blah grom sucks

You forgot to mention that it costs too much. Did you skip coffee this morning? We all need consistent and thorough daily reminders of why we all bought the wrong bike. If you can't step it up, we're going to have to get a new troll.

 

[Scoobs]

I agree the Grom is a better learning bike because it is more forgiving, lighter, cheaper, probably safer. If someone needs the bike for the highway to commute though, the Grom might not work out. It doesn't stop me though. I put most of my Grom miles on I-35. I think cost and looks are what really determine what someone buys. I would never buy a Harley, Gold Wing, even if a report came out that they were safest and they sold for $6000. The Grom style is not going to appeal to many of the same people as the 250 cause the looks are so different. There really isn't anything available to compare to the Grom, but there are several 250s and the Ninja 300 to compare to the CBR 250. If I liked the CBR 250 and Honda bikes, I would be looking at the 500 models too.

My friend has the Ninja 300 ABS SE and he will sell it soon because of bad fit and finish. The fairing rattles a lot, he went to the dealer to get it checked for that and misfires at low end rpm. The dealer didn't found anything wrong on the bike, they changed the sparkplugs and changed the screws on the fairing but it still rattles a bit and misfires.

He told me he was selling his Ninja for a Honda CBR500R, he was even thinking of going for the 250 but he got used to the faster 300 so he can't go down in cc lol.

As for me, I don't plan on getting on long trips on a bike anytime soon. I plan playing on city roads, go to the store or pub. I don't really need a larger bike just yet. I will add one a few years after I get the Grom, maybe a CBR500F or CBR500RA. But I plan on modding the Grom to my liking.

 

[Scoobs]

In Quebec there's a minimum highway speed limit of 60km/h (37,3mph) and a maximum speed limit of 100km/h (62,1mp/h) I looked also on google map and I found many roads to commute to work and go places with out highways. Even going to a resort town there's a nice curvy road that has a 90km/h (56mp/h) limit. So I don't think I need a faster bike after all lol

 

[Grom'n-BR]

You wanna ride a bike with power but have fun like a grom just buy that KTM 390 that's coming out. It's gonna be retarded!

 

[Scoobs]

Hahaha I saw the KTM 390 on the web also. I still think Honda has better fit and finish

 

[mockaton]

I grew up riding trails on a early 70s xl 125 honda and a yamaha enduro 500 when I was in my early teens. I quit riding around 18 due to moving and starting college. I got into cars and guitars and put motorcycles on the back burner. Fast forward to my 30s married with kids and drag racing import cars. I stumbled across an article on the grom in a road and track and it brought back memories on my old bikes as a teen. I went out and bought a grom to learn to ride again and teach my family how to ride. Best investment and loads of fun!!! I plan to get a bigger bike soon but the grom will always get some weekly use cause it's so much fun. We all have our reasons to love that little bike. Enjoy!!!


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[AJ Nin]

My 2014 Ninja 300 had poor fairing fit too. It is true that fit and finish is not Kawasaki's forte, especially compared to Honda...but, I got the fairings gaps fixed under warranty. There are no rattles. The Ninja 300 is a solid bike and performance and reliability are outstanding. I'm sure the Honda 250 and 500 are good bikes too. I prefer the Ninja 300 riding position and lighter weight compared to the Honda 500s. At 75 mph, my Ninja 300 purrs and is very well planted. I couldn't ask for anything more. It's a remarkable bike.

 

[FXCLM5]

You forgot to mention that it costs too much. Did you skip coffee this morning? We all need consistent and thorough daily reminders of why we all bought the wrong bike. If you can't step it up, we're going to have to get a new troll.

yup, and i have nothing better to do but troll other peoples posts, change the quote and spam them....

real mature brother. grow up and get over it, if you think your grom is worth the $ you paid for it, then thats all you.

 

[FXCLM5]

its funny how other ppl quoted my original post since it was pertinent info, yet you decided to chop it up and quote me as blah blah blah.....

wow you have some hatred going on over internet beef, go ride your precious little grom, and if you ever meet me in real life, ill make sure we take it to the track so we can settle this e-thug wannabe troll/bullying on a level playing field.

 

[GromTactical]

well here is my take

if its your first bike - dont get a grom

a grom is a toy and not a real motorcycle

you wont experience the freedom of a real motorcycle, until you ride a real motorcycle

a cbr250 is a full sized real motorcycle, you will experience what that freedom is because you have the ability to position yourself out of traffic situations,

a grom is great for a toy and you use it as a toy/low mileage commutes - since it cant go on freeway, and a great training wheels to get ppl into riding, but dont think you will experience what riding is about just with a toy grom.

But a 250 ninja, cbr or even a 250 sumo will give you more of the riding experience then a grom will ever do.

And dont think you will seriously ever NEED more then 250cc, you really dont need it, you may want more but just lookat what 125cc and 250cc trackbikes can do, they can run circles around litrebikes, its not the bike its the rider. The 250 is a great bike to start with, a grom a great toy but you wont experience the full effect of riding since its a 3/4 size toy

This shit again. Broken record. Stop wasting your time repeating yourself on this forum and go find one that focuses on "real motorcycles." The Grom is a real motorcycle by definition. It's real small. It's real slow. It's real inexpensive. It's real good on gas. And it's real fun. Please hurry up and sell your Grom to a real motorcyclist that isn't hung up on some cliche idea that a motorcycle has to look a certain way or have a minimum displacement, cylinders, or weight. Go buy a leather jacket and ride off into the sunset on a Harley Fat Boy with a bandana-- no helmet.


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[fashionrider712]

well here is my take

if its your first bike - dont get a grom

a grom is a toy and not a real motorcycle

you wont experience the freedom of a real motorcycle, until you ride a real motorcycle

a cbr250 is a full sized real motorcycle, you will experience what that freedom is because you have the ability to position yourself out of traffic situations,

a grom is great for a toy and you use it as a toy/low mileage commutes - since it cant go on freeway, and a great training wheels to get ppl into riding, but dont think you will experience what riding is about just with a toy grom.

But a 250 ninja, cbr or even a 250 sumo will give you more of the riding experience then a grom will ever do.

And dont think you will seriously ever NEED more then 250cc, you really dont need it, you may want more but just lookat what 125cc and 250cc trackbikes can do, they can run circles around litrebikes, its not the bike its the rider. The 250 is a great bike to start with, a grom a great toy but you wont experience the full effect of riding since its a 3/4 size toy

jus opinions. but if it wasn't a real motorcycle it shouldn't need plates an insurance. an for me i've got about 10years on a 1000cc sport bike or what they call now super street. but i enjoy riding the grom more. that should count as a real bike in my opinion. now if you said you won't feel the power of a big bike then yes i'll agree. but anything on 2 wheels will give you the riding experience. i used to preach that you need a powerful bike to get out of the way of idiot cage drivers. but now that i actually got couple thousand miles on a low powered bike i have a different opinion on it.

 

[hairpin]

In Quebec there's a minimum highway speed limit of 60km/h (37,3mph) and a maximum speed limit of 100km/h (62,1mp/h) I looked also on google map and I found many roads to commute to work and go places with out highways. Even going to a resort town there's a nice curvy road that has a 90km/h (56mp/h) limit. So I don't think I need a faster bike after all lol

Maximum speed limit of 60 mph??? WHAT THE HELL??? That's just a long street not a highway. (Just kidding...)

Anyways, back to the original post. I was actually thinking of getting a CBR 250 too. It would be nice to have something that goes on the freeway, but I'm thinking either busted up old crappy ninja 250 or newer ninja 300. I like having light bikes and I don't commute on freeways. If I was commuting real distances on a fast highway, I would pickup a new-ish 600 cc sportbike, tourer or standard because I would not want to cruise while maxing out my top end.

 

[fashionrider712]

Maximum speed limit of 60 mph??? WHAT THE HELL??? That's just a long street not a highway. (Just kidding...)

Anyways, back to the original post. I was actually thinking of getting a CBR 250 too. It would be nice to have something that goes on the freeway, but I'm thinking either busted up old crappy ninja 250 or newer ninja 300. I like having light bikes and I don't commute on freeways. If I was commuting real distances on a fast highway, I would pickup a new-ish 600 cc sportbike, tourer or standard because I would not want to cruise while maxing out my top end.

hawaii freeways are majority 55, with some 50 and lil 60. but during traffic hours the grom is sufficient. 5am ish an 3pm ish.