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Any advice people can give me:

I've only just hit 2200km on my 2017 Honda Grom and the bike has seized.
I took it to the Peter Stevens service centre this morning and it appears the bike has run out of oil.
This is my first bike and I missed the 1000km service so it looks like Peter Stevens is going to try and get out of the warranty because of this.
Does the Grom generally chew through oil this quickly? Based on the service schedule you'd expect the bike to go 5000km without replacing oil?
Do people think the warranty should be honoured or am I in trouble? Keep in mind I wasn't advised by P.S that the bike chews through oil and they didn't show me the oil gauge where you can easily check how much oil is in the tank. As a first time bike owner I think I shouldn't be liable.
 

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Any advice people can give me:

I've only just hit 2200km on my 2017 Honda Grom and the bike has seized.
I took it to the Peter Stevens service centre this morning and it appears the bike has run out of oil.
This is my first bike and I missed the 1000km service so it looks like Peter Stevens is going to try and get out of the warranty because of this.
Does the Grom generally chew through oil this quickly? Based on the service schedule you'd expect the bike to go 5000km without replacing oil?
Do people think the warranty should be honoured or am I in trouble? Keep in mind I wasn't advised by P.S that the bike chews through oil and they didn't show me the oil gauge where you can easily check how much oil is in the tank. As a first time bike owner I think I shouldn't be liable.
You didn't perform basic maintenance or check your oil level, how is that Honda's fault?
 

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Could be a problem with the engine if it's going through 1 litre of oil and I've only owned the bike 4 months?
Not saying it's Honda's fault but I'm a new bike owner, so I should at least be advised by the store I'm buying from about known issues?
A new bike/car should be able to travel more than 2000km without basic maintenance. If not I'd choose a different bike.
 

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Unfortunately it sounds like you voided the warranty by not proving that you did the required maintenance. Also, the owner's manual covers what should be checked regularly like oil level and tire pressure. You can try escalating it to Honda. Hope it turns out well for you.
 

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Thanks yeah I pumped the tires but seem to have been caught out on the oil. I just expected a better return from the oil than 2000km. It's a pretty expensive lesson and something I wouldn't have to worry about if I'd been given all the info.
 

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Sorry to say it sounds like that is on you, oil should have been changed 1200km ago or at least checked and topped off. I got my :redgrom: this winter and when I changed the oil at 700mi (1100km) there was a layer of grime in the spinner and break in debris in the screen, and I think it had 3/4 qt or so. Per the manual on my KLR650 it req'd the first oil change at 600 miles, though I did it sooner as the first oil change likely had the dirtiest oil the bike will ever see. Stretching the first interval to twice of the recommended would probably have voided warranty from Kawasaki as well.

Single lung bikes seem to burn oil when ran at high rpm for extended periods of time and it's considered normal.
There are PDF Grom owners/shop manuals floating around with about everything you need to know.
 

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Unfortunately it sounds like you voided the warranty by not proving that you did the required maintenance. Also, the owner's manual covers what should be checked regularly like oil level and tire pressure. You can try escalating it to Honda. Hope it turns out well for you.
What he said. It's your job to check the oil level (Honda's recommended ''Pre-ride inspection'' in the owner's manual) and it's your job to take in for maintenance.
And obviously it's your job to read your owners manual.

Does the Grom generally chew through oil this quickly? Based on the service schedule you'd expect the bike to go 5000km without replacing oil?
Do people think the warranty should be honoured or am I in trouble?
- The Grom doesn't chew through oil but like all internal combustion engines there is always some oil consumption, that's the reason they all have a dipstick. Plus the difference between MAX and MIN on the Groms dipstick is very small, extra reason for checking regularly.
- Yes it can go 5000km without replacing the oil (after first service), that doesn't mean it does not have to be checked and eventually toped up. Replacing and checking fluid levels are different things.
- I guess you're in trouble. My advice: be nice with your dealer, it's not their fault. Be polite and patient and try to find a solution with them.
 

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It's a mistake. We all make them everyday. You, or no one else, was physically hurt as a result. Worst case it costs you money to remedy. Lesson learned. Move forward.
 

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Crazy reading stories like this, its a machine, it only holds qt, it should be changed every 800 mile after the first change at 200 miles or less....I did mine at 100,300,600,..
checked before every ride along with tire pressures
 

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The postie 110CC bikes have a very similar engine. If Peter Steven's or Honda won't do a warranty deal see if you can find an independent mechanic to swap out the cylinder and piston for a used set if that's all you can afford. It's a 2 hour job or so.
 

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FYI, this thread is almost two years old (in case people are thinking about replying without checking the dates). I'm sure the OP has moved on.
 

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Regardless if it is an old post. There is a lesson to be learned here for the new-to-motorcycle owner/rider.

Read your owners manual. There really is some good info in there for the newbie. I would venture to guess that most of us in here has not leafed through theirs, myself included. But then again, most of those that have not, consider themselves experienced in such matters.

No such thing as ride, ride and ride some more, without some maintenance. Might be as simple as lubing a chain, or adjusting a clutch cable. The more you ride & then put it away "wet", the sooner the heartbreak.

Check your oil, dipstick. Common knowledge dictates that a new engine will use more oil than a one that has been broken in properly.

Change your oil frequently. Our beloved Groms live at a pretty high RPM for most of its life. Treat it to a change of oil. Hey, it is only a quart...
 

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OP no longer owns a oil eating grom anymore probably LOL
 
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