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I'm looking into getting my first bike stateside, and I'll be using it to commute to Philadelphia. How likely is it that someone will just scoop your bike into a pickup and drive off with it? I've heard similar horror stories back when I owned the Asian-market Honda CD70 and I wanted to know how common this is in the city.
 

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The LoJack system is $695.. Kind of expensive. Just make it so thieves are deterred from taking your bike. Make it as hard a possible. There was an article I read on motorcycle theft written by a ex-motorcycle thief and it really gave you an insight to what they look for and what they will pass up. It is all about opportunity. Don't give that opportunity.
 

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I try to chain/cable my lock almost everywhere I go and I bag the grom so no one knows what is under there unless if they lift up the cover.
Best bet is to get a second iphone or smart phone and put it under your seat or hidden some where and put the phone under your service plan and use FIND my phone if you find your GROM decided to run away from home or your parking spot.

I no longer chain/cable the wheel/rim but put the chain between the fork tube since I have had a couple of friends grom stolen because all the thief just removed the chained/cable tire.

 

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Exactly. Chains and locks only keep honest people honest. A determined thief will plan it out and be prepared, especially if you're always parking in the same spots.
 

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that is why at my house I have a 3 wifi cameras which does video record to a memory card up to 34 gig and also alarm me via smart phone if someone is near my house doors and I can do a live feed to see what is going on and record the event on my smart phone.

 

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This is a timely topic for me, as bike security has really been on my mind a lot lately. I have not yet come up with ANY perfect solution which is acceptable to me. I cannot always find something to lock to like a (light-post). Parking on the sidewalk and locking up like a bicycle is just asking for a ticket. Also, do I want to carry a heavy chain / lock combo when I ride? Locking a wheel is not going to stop two strong guys who can lift it into a pickup truck and drive off. Lo-jack is expensive, and around here the cops do not always follow-up on Lo-jack alerts.

I have accepted the risk of theft. I can store the bike in my garage, but......when I am out riding and I need to park somewhere......well.....I guess I have to accept the risk, try to use some degree of judgment as to where I park, keep an appropriate level of insurance, and enjoy the bike everyday that it is mine.
 

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This is a timely topic for me, as bike security has really been on my mind a lot lately. I have not yet come up with ANY perfect solution which is acceptable to me. I cannot always find something to lock to like a (light-post). Parking on the sidewalk and locking up like a bicycle is just asking for a ticket. Also, do I want to carry a heavy chain / lock combo when I ride? Locking a wheel is not going to stop two strong guys who can lift it into a pickup truck and drive off. Lo-jack is expensive, and around here the cops do not always follow-up on Lo-jack alerts.

I have accepted the risk of theft. I can store the bike in my garage, but......when I am out riding and I need to park somewhere......well.....I guess I have to accept the risk, try to use some degree of judgment as to where I park, keep an appropriate level of insurance, and enjoy the bike everyday that it is mine.
That's why I don't ride my Grom anywhere. I mean, I ride it, but not to anywhere. At home I can park in my garage, I can park it indoors at work, etc, but I won't ride my Grom to say McDonalds for lunch or anything. I'll hop on my bike and go for a ride all the time, but just to ride it, not to go anywhere. I'd never go to the movies, a restaurant, etc, on it. I won't leave it parked anywhere I can't be near it. I know insurance would cover it, but eh, I don't like the thought of buying another one. I hate buying used and I don't want the new Grom, etc.
 

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Just out of curiosity, which is stronger, a chain or cable? I have a huge (thick, not very long) cable that I used to use a long time ago when I lived in an apartment. I'd cable my 954RR to the posts that help up the car port covers. It's frickin thick, at least an 1" thick, probably closer to 2". I haven't even looked at it in years, but I know it's crazy thick.

Anyways, I have no clue which is stronger, a thick chain, or thick cable?
 

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The big square hardened chains are the best. You'll pay out the wazoo for them. They're not overly useful unless coupled with a lock that is equally difficult to get off. Cables are easily cut and so are most chains and locks. Even the best chain and lock can be cut with the right tool, though.
 
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