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"Wow! You are truly a righteous dude! Kind of like Mad Max sharing his gasoline!"

Now THAT'S funny...
 

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Discussion Starter · #85 · (Edited)
Done. Ready for install and test.

Neo kit
Kitaco clutch cover
Takegawa 4th bearing crank support
Kitaco 5 speed transmission
Takagawa sliper clutch
Kitaco high volume oil pump
Takagawa chain tensioner arm
Decha manual cam chain tensioner
Kitaco HD starter

Will use the aracer 5 mini wideband AFR to tune
5 row oil cooler
Hindle exhaust
Koso 34 mm throttle body, intake manifold and Chimera intake.
Speedo sensor adjuster from Kitaco on the way from webike.

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Done. Ready for install and test.

Neo kit
Kitaco clutch cover
Takegawa 4th bearing crank support
Kitaco 5 speed transmission
Takagawa sliper clutch
Kitaco high volume oil pump
Takagawa chain tensioner arm
Decha manual cam chain tensioner
Kitaco HD starter

Will use the aracer 5 mini wideband AFR to tune
5 row oil cooler
Hindle exhaust
Takagawa 34mm intake
Speedo sensor adjuster from Kitaco on the way from webike.

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If this engine blows up I will be very sad.
Wouldn't be the first time that has happened!

You said Takegawa 34mm intake?

Is that the throttle body and intake tube?

They have multiple intake tubes. Does it match the intake port of the Kitaco head?
 

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Wouldn't be the first time that has happened!

You said Takegawa 34mm intake?

Is that the throttle body and intake tube?

They have multiple intake tubes. Does it match the intake port of the Kitaco head?
Correction: Koso 34 mm throttle body, intake manifold and Chimera intake.

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Not sure how much slack to set the cam chain at using the manual tensioner, but this video seems to suggest 1/4 inch.

 

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Not sure how much slack to set the cam chain at using the manual tensioner, but this video seems to suggest 1/4 inch.

I let mine idle and finger turned it in until it started to get some pressure and tightened the locknut.
 

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Unfortunately Grom Fatherz doesn't provide instructions. Or answer email regarding setup.

I watched videos online and most idle the bike and turn in until noise stops.

I just idled, adjusted it in lightly until I felt pressure and tightened the locknut.

Too little pressure and you get chain slap.

Too much and you destroy your rollers/pulleys.
 

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The Neo engine with Kitaco 5 speed is installed and running.

The manual cam tensioner contacts my Hindle pipe. Need to figure out what to do about that. May have to grind down the adjustment end a bit to get some more clearance.

Next up a test ride.

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Can you adjust the bracket at the muffler to swing the system away from it?

That was a good idea. As I was examining the pipe mount it occurred to me that I could just add another exhaust gasket on top of the grom fatherz billet gasket I am already running. That dropped the pipe down enough to get the clearance I need.

The dent in the pipe is from when my last crankcase exploded.

Took the bike for a spin around the block. Using Aracer mini 5 auto tune just below the 60c kick in temp it was all orange dots, but as soon as 60C registered it turned all green. Cool.

I need to adjust the clutch. The takegawa slipper is finiky.

Really powerful. Did not crack 5K RPM and the bike was pulling hard.

Odd feeling shifting through 5 gears on the grom. Could not get into neutral with the engine running, the clutch is dragging a bit.


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Unfortunately Grom Fatherz doesn't provide instructions. Or answer email regarding setup.

I watched videos online and most idle the bike and turn in until noise stops.

I just idled, adjusted it in lightly until I felt pressure and tightened the locknut.

Too little pressure and you get chain slap.

Too much and you destroy your rollers/pulleys.
DH replied to my email:


I set them tight enough so that there is no excess play, but you should still be able to spin the lower idler wheel fairly easily.

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www.dhmotoring.com
 

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Just got back from a hard 40 mile break in ride on the new motor.

Impressed.

The Kitaco 5 speed is buttery smooth, neutral was easy to find at the end of the ride. I was surprised every time I made a shift.

Feels like a proper sports bike transmission. Better than my ducati.

The engine is smooth. Way less vibration than stock.

Powerful.

Really glad my last engine blew up or I might never have experienced what the Neo and 5 speed offer!
 

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Man this thing rips! Another balls to the walls ride this afternoon after I changed the oil from the first ride hard break in.

16/34 gearing is not good enough for all this power and the 5 speed tranny.

Ordered a 17T front and will see how it goes.
 

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I'd watch oil temps, top speed attainability in top gear, cruising temps etc.

The NEO is different from the 4 valve kits so it may pull tall gearing but watch the oil temp and level.

On my setup now I'm back to stock gearing and can only get to high 80's in top gear and into the 90's in 4th.

The oil temps start cooking while cruising at 70 mph in 5th though.
 

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I'd watch oil temps, top speed attainability in top gear, cruising temps etc.

The NEO is different from the 4 valve kits so it may pull tall gearing but watch the oil temp and level.

On my setup now I'm back to stock gearing and can only get to high 80's in top gear and into the 90's in 4th.

The oil temps start cooking while cruising at 70 mph in 5th though.
Yes, good points.

I ride the Grom either WOT or hard braking just like on a track.

With the current gearing I am hitting redline too soon, even in 5th gear so I need to go taller.

Top speed is of no interest to me at all.

I never cruise the thing.

I have a CHT gauge and the oil temp reading from the aracer app to monitor while riding.
 
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