My 2 cents for what it's worthSeems like gromsquatch, I believe is his name, on YouTube has had it many times.
You have a good dealer. I think the bikes show up with a tight chain right out of the crate. I can't imagine the dealers I've been to adjust the chains this way willfully. I think they're just un-crating the bikes and putting them on the sales floor as is and then perform necessary maintenance after each gets sold. I feel this way because I was presented with 2 tight roped chained bikes from 2 different dealers and passed on an ABS model I noticed the same way.I have checked chain tension on two brand new units that a friend and I purchased a week apart from the same dealer and chain tension was correct.I have 0 miles on mine and he has about 40 miles on his.I am hoping all is well with ours.
I wouldn't think so, a sealed chain only makes maintenance a bit easier. I replaced my original after about 3500 miles with an RK 420MRU U-RING chain from mnnthbx that works nicely with the OEM sprockets when I upgraded my chain adjusters.So aftermarket chain will fix the issue?
How much do they cost?
I wouldn't use GromXsuatch in your example to Honda. After he came to the realization he was running his chain too tight causing the issue, he made adjustments on the looser end of chain slack parameters and hasn't had the issue come up in a long time. Seems this problem was solved for him.I am going to call Honda North America and see what they say. I will tell them I refuse to take the bike to a dealership until a real solution is found. I am going to cite @Yellow22 's and GromXsquatch's rediclulous experiences as to why I will not take it to the dealership.
You could always just run the bike until it makes the sound your having after you've travelled to the dealer locale and then set someone from the dealer off on it to discover the sound for themselves.3. If the issue only happens after 20 miles or so, I'm kind of screwed. He said no dealership is going to ride my bike that far to test it out because they don't have the time and Honda doesn't pay them to do that.
He hasn't made any videos about his Grom experience for months while constantly makes other unrelated ones but you can find in his comments where he admits his folly from having the chain adjusted too tightly.I did not see this. I assume he has a video on this? I'll look it up. Still curious to why a properly adjusted chain would cause this noise...
Agreed. But after all that exaggerated heated hate he put on Honda I'm thinking it might be a little embarrassing for him to come out and say it was due to something he was contributing to the cause of.I don't get the not sharing thing. Seems like gromx made so many videos complaining about it, IMO he owes an explanation for his solution.
I hope it is just the chain as I can't wait to replace mine anyway. IMO non sealed chains are garbage. I have never oiled it and I don't plan on it. When it wears out I'm getting an x ring chain.
That right there. Be careful! I was of the same mind. After 1700 miles on your bike it wouldn't surprise me if you check chain slack and it's fine. But, and this is a big but, if you put the rear on a stand and slowly turn the rear wheel keep checking the slack and you may find a tight spot.I have never oiled it and I don't plan on it.
I think people have differing noise issues and things become conflated. My personal example was simply chain related. Others seem to have quite a different issue. Maybe my rambling above can help some people define and sort out theirs.I am still doubting the chain adjustment is the cause of this issue. (Sub par chains sourced by Honda more likely?!?!) My Grom's chain has been in spec since the first ride. This noise does not sound like a noise the chain could possibly make. (I could definitely be wrong here. Just my opinion.) Yellow22 said his grom still makes the noise with the chain out of spec loose.
Still waiting for an acceptable solution.
While the noise issue has been rather quiet on this forum, what are you doing here? Your first post and you copied and pasted one of my thoughts from this thread word for word as if it were your own, and with out quoting the source? Trying to stir the pot or exacerbate an issue?I wonder if the noise has anything to do with the way these 2022 Groms show up at dealerships with an extremely tight chain setting?
I've encountered 3 3rd generation Groms brand new on dealer floors that presented with the chain tighter than a banjo string. I mean no wiggle room at all.
I put over 16,000 combined miles specifically on my 3 2022 Groms. No issues. Based on the chatter here I'd say your chances of having an issue are pretty slim.Just picked up a used 2022 grom with 2300 miles on it. I've maybe put 100 miles on it so far and have had no issues. Hopefully I don't have any, but if I do it is nice to know that the parts to replace the countershaft, second gear, and the bushing are only like 40 bucks: 2022 Honda GROM125 2AC TRANSMISSION | Babbitts Honda Parts House
And you really might only need the bushing.
Of course you'd need a case splitter, torque wrench, all the torque specs, a clean work space, and a bunch of sockets and stuff.
I forget where I read the issue, but it seems like it's the bushing that second gear idles on on the countershaft when in gears that aren't second. I wonder why this has been a problem for some groms? Is it that not enough oil is reaching this bushing at sustained high speed? Fix by overfilling the oil some? I've elected to run my oil level just over the top of the sight glass personally....