[Watson22]

I’ve tried everything short of breaking something. Never had the seat off
It won’t release
ANY HELP OR TRICKS APPRECIATED

 

[Vivilacqua1]

You gotta really pull up on the back and bend it slightly. Once I got mine off I threw a couple fat washers under the hooks to make them sit lower. Now it comes off a little easier.

 

[Watson22]

You gotta really pull up on the back and bend it slightly. Once I got mine off I threw a couple fat washers under the hooks to make them sit lower. Now it comes off a little easier.

Seems to me if I put washers UNDER the release, it would sit HIGHER. Am I wrong ?

 

[Vivilacqua1]

Under the hooks, as in between them and the seat to space them out more.

 

[roadster]

There is definitely a knack to this. I find it easier to stand behind the bike and place one hand each side of the seat. Once the lock is sprung pull up and back at 45 degrees.

 

[Watson22]

Under the hooks, as in between them and the seat to space them out more.

OKAY THANKS !!!

There is definitely a knack to this. I find it easier to stand behind the bike and place one hand each side of the seat. Once the lock is sprung pull up and back at 45 degrees.

thanks. The more I do it the little bit easier it gets but I still don’t understand the washer thing since the release is mounted UNDER the frame.

 

[Vivilacqua1]

My observations lead me to believe the pin locks the seat down in the back at a specific height. The hooks I spaced down that keep the middle of the seat secured are still pulling it down when it is latched, just a little less tightly so I can take the seat off with less force. if there is a difference in height, I have not noticed. The latching pin still latches and the hooks still hook.

 

[mingo]

OKAY THANKS !!!

thanks. The more I do it the little bit easier it gets but I still don’t understand the washer thing since the release is mounted UNDER the frame.

Not under the frame, under the seat itself. Look at the hook that's attached to the seat, if you put a couple of washers under that hook, the hook will sit lower on the catch mechanism on the frame.

At the riding school where I teach, we have twelve '22 Groms, and on some, the seat comes off with ease and some with great difficulty and on a couple, the seat unlatching cable fell out of where it's held in the frame and there was no way to get the seat off without some serious force..

 

[Watson22]

Not under the frame, under the seat itself. Look at the hook that's attached to the seat, if you put a couple of washers under that hook, the hook will sit lower on the catch mechanism on the frame.

At the riding school where I teach, we have twelve '22 Groms, and on some, the seat comes off with ease and some with great difficulty and on a couple, the seat unlatching cable fell out of where it's held in the frame and there was no way to get the seat off without some serious force..

DOES IT SCREW OUT OR IS IT GLUED IN ?
I TRIED TO TURN IT BUT IT WOULDNT BUDGE

 

[mingo]

I'm away from home till mid march so I can't check.

 

[randon1997]

I’ve tried everything short of breaking something. Never had the seat off
It won’t release
ANY HELP OR TRICKS APPRECIATED

Mine did the same thing, I bent the two metal loops on the top of the frame forward with a pair of channel locks just a very little distance and now it opens very easily. I think the seat needed to be forward and that does the trick.

 

[Lynn Curtner]

I don't like that latching mechanism - it's not fail-safe. if that cable breaks or becomes unattached for some reason there's no way to get the seat off short of a crowbar.

 

[Watson22]

Not under the frame, under the seat itself. Look at the hook that's attached to the seat, if you put a couple of washers under that hook, the hook will sit lower on the catch mechanism on the frame.

At the riding school where I teach, we have twelve '22 Groms, and on some, the seat comes off with ease and some with great difficulty and on a couple, the seat unlatching cable fell out of where it's held in the frame and there was no way to get the seat off without some serious force..

DOES IT SCREW OUT OR IS IT GLUED IN ?

 

[mingo]

It looks like it may be screwed into the seat pan. I did not try to unscrew it for fear of breaking it, but on March 18 I will be at the MSF program and will try it out on one of the bikes in our fleet.

 

[bigcanoe]

I did this "mod" last night on my 2023. Remove the seat, flip it over. There are two latches on the seat with 10mm nuts. Remove the 10mm nuts (and the seat strap if you so desire). Put some flat washers on the bolts for the latch, some on each side. I used 4 on each side because the removal of the strap lost me some gap. Put the latches back on and tighten the nuts. Now the latches sit further from the seat base. And the seat is much easier to put on and take off.